In an extraordinary moment on Fox News yesterday, host Dagen McDowell openly blurted out what Trump supporters secretly worry about when assessing a potential Robert Mueller interview with president Trump. What if he lies on record?
“How in the world could [Trump] ever cooperate and sit down with Mueller for an interview, knowing that if you tell one lie to Bob Mueller, he will move to file charges,” said McDowell on the show ‘Outnumbered’. Just watch:
Here's Fox News' @dagenmcdowell revealing she has absolutely no clue how being interviewed by FBI agents works: "How in the world could [Trump] ever cooperate & sit down with Mueller for an interview, knowing that if you tell one lie to Bob Mueller, he will move to file charges." pic.twitter.com/J4avD6M8dR
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 8, 2018
For McDowell’s information, lying to federal officer is a crime punishable by up to 5 years in prison.Title 18 of the United States Code states the following:
a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully—
- (1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device[ , ] a material fact;
- (2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or
- (3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry
shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both….
McDowell seems to be unaware that it doesn’t matter how many times you lie to a federal prosecutor, the crime is still the same. Of course lying multiple times is worse, but it is besides the point — murdering one person is still murder, even if you didn’t kill multiple people.
What McDowell is really saying though, is that president Trump lies so frequently that he cannot be held to the same standards as everyone else. McDowell would no doubt call for the maximum sentence possible if President Obama lied in an interview with a federal prosecutor, because Obama isn’t a liar and he would clearly be trying to cover up a crime. Trump however, is a serial liar who likely has no idea what is true and what is not, so must be given leeway to make up facts and say things that have no basis in reality.
Just think about that for a moment — that a working journalist on a major network believes the president of the United States should be able to lie to a federal prosecutor because everyone knows he’s a liar anyway.
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