Gun Magazines & Gun Owner Psychology

gun-magazine

I was in a drug store the other day, and while waiting for a prescription I decided to thumb through a gun magazine. I confess, I’m certainly not the demographic for this publication. While I spend hundreds (thousands?) of hours virtually shooting bad guys in games like Call of Duty, I’ve only ever touched a real gun once – my late grandfather’s (unloaded) handgun.

I grew up with almost no toy guns, and while I’ve been exposed to tons of violent media and have a history buff fascination with war (particularly World War 2), it isn’t like guns mean anything to me.

So I open up this magazine and basically its selling its readers a nightmare world in which armed gangs are invading their homes and attacking/killing/raping their families. And of course, the supposed salvation is a handgun.

This is basically telling all gun owners that on some given day in the future they’re going to be Dirty Harry/John Wayne/etc. The problem, of course, is that most of the time when people get shot in the home it isn’t because they gunned down the mysterious dark figure assaulting their families.

This is like me thinking I wouldn’t poop in my pants because Call of Duty prepared me for actual war. So dumb.

Gun owners, particularly the diehard ones, are being sold a bill of goods. We have people in our society that are generally pretty good at taking down the bad guys – the police. What’s better is that they’re actually trained with their guns rather than simply having enough money to give to the teller at Wal-Mart.

The gun magazines show off their product in the same oddly fetishistic way car and gadget magazines do, except it’s a weapon designed to kill people. In addition to all the lax laws, etc. around the world of guns, there is a cultural problem that I doubt can be fixed.

Maybe just having less guns for people attempting to compensate for something else missing in their lives would be a start.

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    • 11BravoCibVet

      You Neo Bolsheviks havent a clue what a can of vipers you are opening. Just remember that we are prepared to fight and die if need be indefense of the Bill of Rights… The question you must ask yourself is if YOU are prepared to do so to destroy those rights. And I say YOU because most Military/L.E. etc are oath bound and sworn to defend the ENTIRE US Constitution! Not just the parts you happen to agree with.

    • 11bravo

      My name isnt strunk…nor is it duffy or oy or whatever you jerkoffs call me. I keep begging you to use your creepy stalker skills along with your loser friends to try to get me and my info. But you cant. Stalker weasel fuck. Oi ly will get sapper stomped. Im gonna see how many sorrys i can get out of you when im done hahahahaha bye sugar tits….off to watch my colts win.

    • Copypasta Alfredo

      Test.

      • db

        DA,

        Welcome back.

    • oi ly

      Fool. You are.

    • oi ly

      We already ready know your name … Fool.

    • mortyshatz

      Hey ol froth….suck on Burns cock…..burn!!! Come bully me fuck head… oi ly eat my fart box. Lets all exchange real names!!! Lets fucking go pussies!! Ante up ill give you my forst name. Larry. Ol froth is gonna get a sapper stomp down. And you assholes actually try to act tough. Lets fucking go frauds.

      Ps. Im taking a shit

      • Copypasta Alfredo

        Hi, Morty.

        Hi, Dennis, I guess Ollie doesn’t think I’ll be a blot on the echelon of his fine blog.

      • samiam

        Morty,

        They are all closet gamer fags

        Sam I am

        • Copypasta Alfredo

          R U suffering from Anal Poisoning like your hero, Rush Limpballs?

          • samiam

            No, I am suffering from Fran Cuffman poisoning. It’s making me want to throw up you sick twisted moron. Fook off

            • Copypasta Alfredo

              You first, foul mouthed dolt.

          • samiam

            You are such a sick twisted individual. We’re you involved with horses at some point in your life. You are a fookin loser.

            • Copypasta Alfredo

              Thanks for the feedback, lame-brain.

      • http://frothslosh.typepad.com/froth-slosh-bgosh/ Ol-Froth

        Ps. Im taking a shit
        Please change your pants and clean thoroughly. You don’t want to get a rash.

    • oi ly

      It’s garbage day on the Daily Banter. Oliver, Ben, somebody? I can hear the garbage truck rolling down the road and the bins are full!!

    • oi ly

      Step up, Oliver. I believe it’s garbage day on the Daily Banter.

    • http://frothslosh.typepad.com/froth-slosh-bgosh/ Ol-Froth

      I should have also added that a crossbow isn’t easily concealable, unlike say, a pistol. One wonders why there are no lone vrossbowman mass massacres? I suppose that’s due to the bulkiness, unwieldiness, and slow rate of fire?

      • db

        Damn Ol,

        You say what I want to say & say it better & faster.

        I will point out though that getting good with a longbow takes a whole lot more practice & skill than a crossbow or fire-arm. That’s why fire-arms replaced longbows in the 1500s.

      • mortyshatz

        As lethal…if you get shot with a crossbow you will die…theres a reason you hunt with them. Not a weak arguement…both are lethal. In fact a crossbow would be more lethal than a .22 caliber round.

        • http://frothslosh.typepad.com/froth-slosh-bgosh/ Ol-Froth

          I wouldn’t say that a crossbow bolt is “more” lethal than a .22. After all, the round most of those military style weapons fire is a .223. Unless you want to start splitting hairs about the relative lethality of .22 short, .22 long, or .22 magnum rounds.

          Again, it comes down to ease of use and rate of fire. Crossbow=low rate of fire. AR-15, high rate of fire and large magazine capacity. Given a crossbow’s low rate of fire and relativly short range, you’ve got just one shot. You miss, and your target will close into striking distance before you can reload. There’s a reason why a crossbow is not the weapon of choice for those who intend to cause mayhem.

          A baseball bat is just as “lethal” as a crossbow bolt if you use it to beat someone’s head in, but that’s not what a baseball bat is designed for.

      • mortyshatz

        My only point is that anything is deadly

        • db

          Morty,

          Sure anything can be deadly. Cars are more deadly than bows & (probably) guns. But no one wants to ban cars. Why? Because cars have a utility beyond killing things. Guns are designed to kill things & they are good at it. So your point is not particularly relevant.

          Guns are designed to kill things. Some things deserve killing (with apologies to Gandalf the Grey; but as Eowyn of Rohan said, “It takes only one foe to have a war.”) so we keep guns around. Some derive pleasure from tracking & killing animals. Okay.

          But none of that requires the availability of military style hardware to the general public. And certainly none of that requires the glorification of such weapons.

        • Christopher Foxx

          “mortyshatz”: My only point is that anything is deadly

          Then your only point is a stupid one.

          Anything can be deadly. People have been killed with cars, baseball bats, chicken bones, scarves, stair lifts, lava lamps, hockey pucks…

          Arguing that an AR-15 is like a scarf, or even a crossbow, is ridiculous on it’s face. As sensible as arguing an AR-15 is as deadly as an ICBM.

    • http://frothslosh.typepad.com/froth-slosh-bgosh/ Ol-Froth

      Um, because a crossbow has a pretty slow rate of fire as compared to a bolt-action rifle, revolver, semi-automatic pistol, longbow, or AR-15? Seriously Morty, that’s a pretty lame argument. I can reload, cap off, and fire my muzzle loading musket in the same amount of time it takes to draw, load, and fire a crossbow.

      • mortyshatz

        I also noticrd you said weak argument. If you look at the previous message…i did say i agree. Have a splended day

    • http://frothslosh.typepad.com/froth-slosh-bgosh/ Ol-Froth

      Well Morty, we generally have a number of gun magazines laying about work, and there’s usually an article or two on a particular weapon, its specifications, review etc, liberally sprinkled with ads. There’s nothing inherently wrong with trying to sell a product per se, but most of the ads are warning, some subtly, others not so subtly that you NEED this weapon to defend your family or yourself from whatever the fear of the day is, and for Jebus’s sake, START PREPPING!

      These mags usually feature editorials and commentary as well, mostly in the black helicopter/ebil gubmint coming for your precious bodily fluids/Obama the Kenyen-nazicommie usurper vein.

      Just pick up any gun mag. They’re fairly interchangeable.

      • mortyshatz

        What is odd tho, is that a crossbow would be as deadly as a .223 round and an ar-15. And you only see those in hunting mags…and the number of actuall crossbow related murders is almost non existent. Any relevance???

        • db

          Morty,

          Crossbows have a real long reload time. See In Re: Crecy 13 something or another.
          They don’t do magazine clips well.
          They are a lot a lot less prevalent.

          And maybe shooting one doesn’t give the same rush. But I promised to leave the psychology alone.

          By the way, I never said you were Dennis, only that you played his game.

        • Christopher Foxx

          “mortyshatz”: What is odd tho, is that a crossbow would be as deadly as a .223 round and an ar-15.

          No, what is odd is that you’d claim a crossbow (single fire, long reload time, max range) is as deadly as an AR-15 (up to 800 rounds/min, 400+ m range).

          Tell ya what, I’ll take an AR-15, you get a crossbow. Let’s meet at high noon. Liking your odds?

    • mortyshatz

      So…anybody want to actually talk about gun mags or do you just want to try to play kid games? Oh anf just fyi im not dennis…i actually post my real name…unlike you guys. Gun mags anyone???

    • mortyshatz

      What the hell is going on here….i joined this hoping to have intellectual convos/disagreements. For some reason im getting accused of not being intelligent, being somebody else, trolling, and even threatened to get banned? Anybody want to explain why ALL of you people are insane. No normal human is just “one” thing…im liberal about some things and conservative about others. You people are all paranoid about gad knows what. If i disagree is right away off with my head and im getting banned amd im somebody named dennis…insane

      • oi ly

        “im liberal about some things”

        Do tell.

        • mortyshatz

          Its a shame…that entire paragraph and the only thing you take away from that is one small quote. So…gun mags???? Any thought?

          • oi ly

            It’s the only part of the paragraph I found interesting. Is that OK?

            • mortyshatz

              Gun mags??? Isnt that the topic?? Any thoughts?

            • oi ly

              Dufty is trying too hard.

      • Christopher Foxx

        “mortyshatz”: “What the hell is going on here….i joined this hoping to have intellectual convos/disagreements.

        Yes, we can see that. Who could doubt your interest in having intelligent exchanges of views and reasonable discussions when your contributions have included:

        You FOOKIN douche bag. You and your boy FUDGEPaCK are so FOOKIN STUPID. I am a human being and you are just a disgruntled video gamer with no life. Why dont you send me an enail- YOU PUSSY
        This is one place that I love ring dings. F the crazy liberals.
        Oi ly your [sic] an idiot.
        and my personal favorite, the
        But the idea of an assault weapon is silly…anything coild be an assault weapon
        attempt to re-define an “assault weapon” as anything that could be used to hurt someone (a.k.a. the “an assault weapon ban would mean we can’t have butter knives anymore” argument)

        Sheesh.

    • mortyshatz

      Dont get me wrong…guns need to go. But the idea of an assault weapon is silly…anything coild be an assault weapon…handguns are far more dangerous…thats why theyre harder to get

      • db

        Morty,

        If you’re not Dennis; you’re certainly playing his game of muddying the definitions of words. Assault Weapon has a specific definition. Repack may know it off the top of his head, I do not.

        • mortyshatz

          DB,

          Why is everyone on here Dennis to you if they don’t agree with your socialistic beliefs?

          Repack is just some moron who thinks that serving in the Army 40 years ago, gives him the right to spread vile all over the fold above. He can take his spandex and bullcrap beliefs and stick them where the sun don’t shine.

          Morty

          • M2

            Socialistic beliefs? Please troll elsewhere, Morty. Ask your dumber half if it’s okay.

            Maybe someone at the Banter can clear this up with an IP check and a ban.

            • db

              Marco,

              See how Morty is playing Dennis’ game of definition shift? I wish I could read the above the fold comments to see if DA has “outed” him yet.

              I’m not sure I agree with, “No one buys an assault rifle to store it under their bed in case of a home invasion.” I fone is expecting Agents of the ZOG…. But I’m willing to sit back & listen to you & Mr. Dean discuss the psychology of gun ownership.

              If I don’t get to it later; I hope you & the rest of the guys have a safe & enjoyable New Year.

            • mortyshatz

              Maybe you shouldnt have people banned everytime someone disagrees with you

        • mortyshatz

          And the definition is???

          • Christopher Foxx

            Readily available to anyone who has three seconds to spend on a Google search.

            Oh, and who also actually has an interest in knowing what they’re talking about. Guess that rules Morty out.

            • Christopher Foxx

              Really curious now to see if Morty actually sends the three seconds….

    • M2

      No one buys an assault rifle to store it under their bed in case of a home invasion. They buy it to shoot it. i wish NRA fans would at least admit to their fascination with firearms.

      • mortyshatz

        You sound like the media…do you even know what an “assault ” weapon is?

      • mortyshatz

        M2,

        Says who? How do you know this to be factual? There are far more deaths attributed to assault without a gun then there are with guns. You need to get off your high horse and look at the facts.

        Morty

    • oi ly

      What happened? I used to be able to read all of the facebook posts before, but all of a sudden, I’m being asked to log in to read more than the two visible comments.

      • mortyshatz

        Are you a gun owner

      • db

        oi,

        Me too? Sign in to what?

        Morty,

        Repack is proud of his military service. & he’s not wrong. The stats are clear. Guns are a bigger danger to the owner & his family than any potential intruder.

    • mortyshatz

      So is anybody actually going to comment on the subject above or is this sight full of children?
      I digress, gun mags are exactly the problem aswell as the media…selling product with fear. They got that shtick from churches. Oi ly your an idiot. Dennis is an idiot

      • oi ly

        Whatever …

    • oi ly

      Morty is Dennis!

      • mortyshatz

        No im logical

    • mortyshatz

      Repack- your wrong. Why do you constantly talk about the Army? Come post down below Repack

    • oi ly

      Yes Mr. Ricker, I can’t tell you how many white people I meet who are prepping for the coming “race war”.

    • db

      Morty,

      I’ve heard good arguments for, “If you’ve got it; insure it.” Mandatory liability insurance makes sense & is likely to pass muster with the Supreme Court.

      Mr. Dean,

      Guns as penis substitute? Dubious but okay. I never took much Psychology in school. But it only begs the further questions:

      Why Americans? What makes them more insecure about (Ahem) than the rest of the world?
      Why Americans? What makes them more fearful than the rest of the world?
      Guns as a God substitute? You’ve got deeply religious persons across the political spectrum. Guns (I’d suspect) stick with the rightward side.

      • mortyshatz

        Media installs fear….canada has more gun owners and almost zero gun violence

    • mortyshatz

      HeyDb,

      The gun law should state. If you have it, spray it. What a disgrace. This is one place that I love ring dings. F the crazy liberals.

      Mortyshatz

    • briandean

      You know, the people who are devoted to their guns won’t give them up due to logic or reason. They don’t own them because of logic or reason. The fact that a gun in the house increases the chances of a resident being shot by a huge amount doesn’t sway them. The guns aren’t there for protection anyway. They are either a substitute penis for the insecure or a way to comfort them because they are so frightened all the time by the big bad world. Ultimately, it is about control. They give insecure people a sense of control over the world, like believing in gods. The world is a scary place and a security blanket is helpful to many people. There’s no amount of logic or reason that can overcome that.

      In a rational world, Americans would be able to understand that there is something significant in the Second Amendment about a “militia”, but that but gets tossed out with the bathwater.

    • db

      Oliver,

      I’m not sure of your cause & effect.

      “Gun owners, particularly the diehard ones, are being sold a bill of goods.”

      i.e. the Magazine Publisher is pushing the idea that there are roving bands of (usually Black) crack-heads ready to invade your house & rape your wife & children.

      I suspect instead that the magazine is published because companies will pay to advertise in it; and it will sell to persons wanting to read such swill. (Advertisements or Stories you choose)

      • mortyshatz

        Agreed. Shows like doomsday preppers doesnt help either.

    • Burn

      Hello Tom. Nice to see you again.

    • oi ly

      Who’s Tom? Dufty? I think it is Dufty. Could be wrong, tho.

    • http://frothslosh.typepad.com/froth-slosh-bgosh/ Ol-Froth

      Well that’s the media for you. On to the next shiny object.

    • http://frothslosh.typepad.com/froth-slosh-bgosh/ Ol-Froth

      Banhammer please.

    • http://frothslosh.typepad.com/froth-slosh-bgosh/ Ol-Froth

      Morty, Oy is Dufty. He specializes in homophobia and misogyny. Basically he comes around, leaves a bunch of droppings, gets banned, dissappears for a while, manages to get around the ban, leaves more droppings and gets banned again. Rinse and repeat.

      While I disagree with SF, Frank and Dennis, at least they try to have rational discussions.

    • http://frothslosh.typepad.com/froth-slosh-bgosh/ Ol-Froth

      Been gainfully employed since I was 12 years old, not that you care.

    • http://frothslosh.typepad.com/froth-slosh-bgosh/ Ol-Froth

      OH please, oh please oh please! Are you serious Oy? Do you even know what I do for a living?

      Yeah, I know I shouldn’t feed it, but watching its descent into madness is truely fascinating!

    • http://frothslosh.typepad.com/froth-slosh-bgosh/ Ol-Froth

      Morty, I know you’re relativly new here, and I’ve never speculated on your identity. I’ve been a regular reader and sporadic commentator for a few years, and you get a “feel” for the styles of the resident trolls. I don’t put you in that category, you seem genuinly interested in actual discussion, but understand that the “regulars” around here are constantly dealing with the same group of trolls who frequently use sock puppets and shift personas, and have rhetorical styles that are pretty easy to identify. If you accidentally fall into a style regularly used by one of the resident trolls, speculation that you ARE that troll is inevitable.

      As you continue to engae here, people are going to come to undertand and recognize your own unique style, and those speculations should cease.

    • oi ly

      Yes’ you are all the same folks. The many sides of stupidity all rolled into one steaming pile …

    • http://frothslosh.typepad.com/froth-slosh-bgosh/ Ol-Froth

      Well Morty, “banhammer” is a term used on a number of blogs to describe the action taken when an annoying pest who adds nothing to the conversation other than idiotic insults and taunts has his or her account blocked from commenting.

      As for what I do? Well, does the phrase “thin blue line” have any meaning to you?

    • http://frothslosh.typepad.com/froth-slosh-bgosh/ Ol-Froth

      Actually, I find him rather tiring. I guess he could be considered amusing, if you find homophobia funny. Personally, I find it to be merely bigoted and hateful.

    • oi ly

      Clearly you find yourself amusing!

    • http://frothslosh.typepad.com/froth-slosh-bgosh/ Ol-Froth

      That would be gefilte not kifilta.

    • Burn

      Tom Dufner, aka Oy Humidity, aka Morty Shatz, aka Dufthom. All the same person.

    • Burn

      New name, same old bizarre juvenile homophobic obsessed ranting.

    • samiam

      Hey Burn,

      You are a fookin stalker. Do you have a life. I would love to meet you and all your gamer fags with Tom Dufner, OY Humidity, Morty Shatz, dufthom, Plunket, Farris, Frank and anyone else that doesn’t believe the same horseshit you queers believe and see who wins a tackle football or soccer or whatever game. I promise your face would look much different after the game you PUSSY. Eric.

      hahahahahahahahahahanahaha

      Sam I am

    • http://frothslosh.typepad.com/froth-slosh-bgosh/ Ol-Froth

      He had potential as the Morty sock puppet, but he’s quickly descended into the madness that is Dufty.

    • samiam

      Morty banhammer???? Do you work loser

    • Copypasta Alfredo

      Idiot.

    • samiam

      Jerkoff

    • Copypasta Alfredo

      Takes one to know one, dummy. Thanks for demonstrating why America needs abortion on demand, Tom Dufthom.

    • http://frothslosh.typepad.com/froth-slosh-bgosh/ Ol-Froth

      707

    • http://frothslosh.typepad.com/froth-slosh-bgosh/ Ol-Froth

      You know, you really do need to keep better notes.

    • http://frothslosh.typepad.com/froth-slosh-bgosh/ Ol-Froth

      Not old. Middle aged. Spend most of my time behind a desk these days. I enjoy it, and I find I don’t have to lash out violently at random people on the intertubes.

      Seriously dude, get some help. You have a very unhealthy obsession with homosexual bigotry, misogyany, and violence.

    • http://frothslosh.typepad.com/froth-slosh-bgosh/ Ol-Froth

      Lets see…you call people “pussy” “fag” “pig” “prick” “cunt” etc, and you object to being called dude?

      Seriously dude, check yourself into a mental health facility. I really am starting to worry about your mental stability and connection to reality.

    • http://frothslosh.typepad.com/froth-slosh-bgosh/ Ol-Froth

      I live a few miles from there. We often eat at DiPietros. I recoomend it if you’re in the area and like Italian.

    • http://frothslosh.typepad.com/froth-slosh-bgosh/ Ol-Froth

      I’m not a captain, and I’ve never contacted your family or employer. Like I typed, you need to take better notes. If others choose to access what you’ve freely posted on the intertubes and use it against you, well, that’s your problem, isn’t it?

    • http://frothslosh.typepad.com/froth-slosh-bgosh/ Ol-Froth

      You’re funny. 812 is an area code in Indiana. You’re thinking of area code 814, which is NW and central PA. Do you always drunk comment this early in the afternoon?

    • 11bravo

      Your a terrible photographer……

    • Copypasta Alfredo

      Thanks for the feedback, Mr. Strunk.