Barack Obama Was Vetted In 2008. Here’s The Proof.

The idea that Barack Obama wasn’t “vetted” in 2008 is one of the more bizarre conspiracy theories out there. At some level, it’s almost on par with birtherism for sheer absurdity. No surprise, the creators of this false idea are the people at Breitbart.com, who are showing us despite all appearances that the late Andrew Breitbart was something of a firewall who kept some of the more bizarre stuff behind closed doors.

No more. The spit-speckled paranoiacs who yell “War!” and lament the mainstream media’s inability to decipher the feces they’ve flung against the wall are in the sort of frenzy you usually get from shortwave conspiracy radio. At any given moment I expect them to give tips for decorating your fallout shelter after the UN’s black helicopters get down to their real business (hint: FEMA camps).

So far the Breitbartverse has two major lodestones for the vetting conspiracy theory:

  • Obama hugged a professor once. Never mind that the video of Obama hugging Prof. Charles Ogletree ran on PBS, the media is obviously hiding it.
  • A literary agent got Obama’s background wrong on a brochure. No less a buffoon than birther Donald Trump is now citing this typo as proof of Obama’s Kenyan citizenship.

That’s about it.

Now, let’s go back in time and examine this rationally. In the course of the 2008 election, Barack Obama’s background was gone over not just by mainstream outlets like the New York Times, but by Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, the McCain campaign, and the RNC — all groups who had a vested interest in digging up campaign-killing dirt on Obama. They couldn’t even muster a doctored “whitey” tape.

The right is also pushing the idea that Obama’s affiliation with Rev. Jeremiah Wright was ignored by the press. This ignores the mainstream media’s incessant replay of Wright’s remarks, particularly on ABC News. It also ignores the fact that the noise of the coverage got so loud that Obama made a speech about it. It wasn’t as if the Obama campaign said “let’s talk about this man and his relationship with Obama for no good reason.”

Additionally Obama’s past was probed by partisan media outlets — conservative blogs, opinion journals like The Weekly Standard and National Review, in addition to Fox News. None of those outlets had any reason to hold back on an anti-Obama anecdote, story, or more that would cast him in the most negative light possible.

This is a lot like people assuming that conspiracy theories involving multiple government agencies employing thousands of people can be kept a secret, for generations. It just doesn’t happen.

In addition to Obama’s own autobiography, there have been almost as many books written about the life of Obama as any other modern U.S. president, save perhaps for Bill Clinton.

Not to mention the research staffs for multiple conservative radio talk show hosts. Does anyone believe that if a Rush Limbaugh staffer had found Obama’s Secret Plan for Socialism it wouldn’t be out there?

Thanks to the extensive vetting of Obama in 2008, we know more about his unique background than we do a lot of other U.S. presidents. We know about his internal identity struggles, just how much weed he may have smoked, what he did for fun, and on and on and on.

You could even take the weekend and scan through the Wikipedia page of Obama’s early life and career. Feel free to make contributions noting Obama’s mysterious connection to the New World Order.

America is intimately aware of much of Barack Obama’s biography, and vetted him at the ballot box in 2008.

  • cenk

    Few lines that say absolutely nothing about sources and does not disclose how come Obama;s school records are not completely available. The author of this article could have just written: “he has been vetted, believe me”. But i guess “race” prevails over “rationality” , which he mentions, ludicrously, in this article.

  • Kathleen Emmons Cook

    Pure, unadulterated bullshit.

    • GavinVolaire

      true

  • I am Singleton

    Can’t resist making comment….I know ..over a year.
    There is a Congressional Research Service reported (CRS)- Obama was NOT properly vetted!
    Now who to believe, what is reported here or reported by a research service?

  • John

    So you are assuming that Obama, from birth, has been involved in this covert affair to deceive all of us? That he was able to fool everyone when he acquired his birth certificate, passport, got into Harvard, became a senator, and then President. Come on.

    • Merle Burbaugh Jr

      Yes, that is pretty much it. He registered at Colombia as a foreign student and received Taxpayer money as a foreign student. He also has a Certified British Birth Certificate that says he was born in Kenya, not Hawaii. Hawaii admitted they did not require PROOF of birth, just verbal acclamation.

      • Marilyn Z

        So correct. The so-called memoirs were written by someone else, of that I have no doubt, the verbiage, the manner of speaking is nothing like Obama’s. The people pulling the strings had to get everything in place and the books did just that for him..they had to get his background in place before he could run.

        I do not think Obama, from birth, has been involved in this covert operation, but I do think that once he met Ayers, while a young man, they started putting everything in place for this *perfect storm.*

        Why otherwise would his nearly first act as president be to lock up ALL his records? And those of his wife? Why would he give up his law license? The lawyers I know worked too hard and too long to give up those licenses unless it was very critical for their future to do so. Why could that be? If the name would prove that the person with the license was the same person now using an alias and running for president. His name was Barry Soetoro and that would show he came here as a foreign student.

        The slight of hand with the birth certificate is very telling. How can anyone look at that obvious forgery and not understand what is happening?

        These people can bully and ridicule all they want, but THEY are ultimately responsible for what is happening to this country. The failure of the media to point out the problems with this man is an important responsibility. They are either delusional or have some ulterior motive.

  • Zython

    The “Obama is not a citizen” story began in the Clinton camp. The “McCain may not be a citizen” story began in the Obama camp.

    So you’re claiming that no one in the McCain camp made those claims? Are you sure you want to state that?

    He attempted to boost the sales of his first book by lying about being born in Kenya = He was willing to lie about his own origins just to make a buck.
    Marco Rubio was lying about his anti-communist creds, seeking support from South Florida’s Cuban exiles … Money had nothing to do with it.

    So your claim is that lying to seek power is more moral than lying for money?

    That…that explains so much…

    Besides, care to cite the passage where he claims to have been born in Kenya?

    My “overall points” are not just true, but you have absolutely no evidence that they might not be.

    Well, we have your track record, for one.

    I said we now know enough to know that he is a chameleon, a liar and a fraud.

    Again, if that were your concern, then why do you support Romney?

  • Justanotherrighty

    Turnabout is fair play.
    The “Obama is not a citizen” story began in the Clinton camp. The “McCain may not be a citizen” story began in the Obama camp.
    Swing and a miss.

    He attempted to boost the sales of his first book by lying about being born in Kenya = He was willing to lie about his own origins just to make a buck.
    Marco Rubio was lying about his anti-communist creds, seeking support from South Florida’s Cuban exiles … Money had nothing to do with it.
    Zero and two is the count …

    As for your overall points, assuming they’re true (which is highly doubtful), you guys tried the “Kenyan Socialist Muslim” angle in 2008. It didn’t work.
    My “overall points” are not just true, but you have absolutely no evidence that they might not be. Second, no one is calling Pres Obama a “Kenyan Socialist Muslim” (well, you just did; I didn’t). I said we now know enough to know that he is a chameleon, a liar and a fraud.
    Strike three! You’re outta there !!

  • The Dark Avenger

    once again, we see what passes for intellect on the left.

    You demonstrate what passed for humility on the right, with your confident prediction of the November results, Justannotherrighty.

    Before you post another comment like the one above, run it by an adult, and save yourself some embarrassment

    The economy is recovering, but not fast enough, because all the Democrats have to offer is an ideology that has never succeeded in the last 150 years.

    As they say in Brooklyn, you don’t know sh*t from Shinola, Justanotherrrighty.

  • The Dark Avenger

    WIll someone burp and put rightytidywhine to bed, he’s making a lot of noise again……..

    • Justanotherrighty

      once again, we see what passes for intellect on the left. I have an idea , Dark Avenger: Before you post another comment like the one above, run it by an adult, and save yourself some embarrassment. Seriously, dude , you are coming across like a Grade A chump.
      As the old, wise, country doctor says to the young, newly trained inexperienced doctor in Doc Hollywood, “You don’t know crap from Crisco!”

  • Justanotherrighty

    If you aren’t “afraid” of all the undisclosed information about Pres Obama’s life – and, boy, is there a lot of it ! – you could be curious . Why aren’t you? You wanted to see Pres Bush’s attendance records from the TANG. You wanted to be assured that because Sen McCain was born in the Panama Canal , he was still a natural born citizen , but concerning Pres Obama – bupkis!
    I suspect that you are afraid of what has been undisclosed , and here’s why I think so , and also why Pres Obama wants to keep it hidden : There is most likely no single earth shattering revelation buried in that pile of concealed data, but I’ll bet that the cumulative effect of perhaps a dozen unpleasant facts would have cost him the Election.
    Just look at some examples of information not known before he was elected:
    He attempted to boost the sales of his first book by lying about being born in Kenya = He was willing to lie about his own origins just to make a buck. That’s hardly Presidential material.
    He lied on his Financial Aid application, saying he was an Indonesian student – again, lying for money.
    Then the latest revelation – his affiliation with a radical left wing third party, in the 1990′s. That revelation probably would cost him the Election on its own, but tie that with the shrouded trip to Pakistan, the pro-Palestinian dinner he attended (the videotape of which the LA Times still refuses to reveal), and his speaking at a Q & A following the showing of a radical left wing film; and he would have never been elected … It’s that simple.

    • Zython

      You wanted to be assured that because Sen McCain was born in the Panama Canal , he was still a natural born citizen

      Turnabout is fair play.

      He attempted to boost the sales of his first book by lying about being born in Kenya = He was willing to lie about his own origins just to make a buck.

      You’re thinking of Marco Rubio.

      That’s hardly Presidential material.

      If lying is unpresidential, then Mitt Romney should just drop out of the race.

      As for your overall points, assuming they’re true (which is highly doubtful), you guys tried the “Kenyan Socialist Muslim” angle in 2008. It didn’t work.

  • Wilbur

    Release them if there’s nothing to hide… Why are you so scared of what might be in these documents?

    Obviously I’m afraid that they might contain Obama’s design for nano-nukes and a faster-that-light spaceship. These could be very dangerous if they fall into the wrong hands prematurely.

    • db

      Wil,

      That, or the essays talking about the boyhood in Kenya.

  • Zython

    3. Blame all problems on Republican filibusters even though he had a filibuster-proof majority.

    Ok, this one is just plain hilarious. You guys talk all the time about how the GOP isn’t a monolith. Then, you criticize the Dems for not being a monolith. And you continue to wonder where this talk about “cognitive dissonance” comes from.

    4. As much voter/donation fraud as is humanly possible.

    For the last time, non-whites voting isn’t “voter fraud”.

  • The Dark Avenger

    SF, I hate to get into your personal life, but don’t you know that meth kills?

    • SaveFarris

      No plans to fix anything, just personal insults.

      Yep, you’re certainly a Democrat!

      PS: Please send my congratulations to Gov-elect Tom Barrett…

      • The Dark Avenger

        You want to return us to Republican policies that aren’t much different than the ones that got us into the recession in the first place, SF:

        Bloomberg did an in depth report on Romney’s economic advisers and policy positions. Surprise, he’s back….like poltergeist, it’s Gregory Mankiw, Bush’s economic adviser.

        Among the financial and business experts advising Romney’s campaign are Columbia University’s R. Glenn Hubbard and Harvard University’s N. Gregory Mankiw, both economists who headed the Council of Economic Advisers under President George W. Bush. Rounding out the team are former Missouri Senator Jim Talent and onetime Minnesota Congressman Vin Weber, now Republican lobbyists at Washington-based firms.

        Hubbard, who helped craft the 2001 Bush tax cuts, played a key role in drafting Romney’s tax initiatives. He, and later Mankiw, chaired the Council of Economic Advisers amid the slowest job growth for any prior president since World War II.

        Please send my congratulations to Gov-elect Tom Barrett…

        As for Walker, I’m glad he survived the recall attempt, it will make it so much sweeter when a Republican governor is indicted for his political shenanigans:

        Of course, Walker has benefited greatly from the secrecy surrounding the investigation, which began in May 2010 under the “John Doe” rubric at the request of Milwaukee County prosecutors. According to documents that surfaced in court only during the past week, that original decision was due, ironically, to the prosecutors’ belief that Walker, then running for governor, might cooperate with them if he didn’t have to worry about damage to his own career.

        On May 5, 2010, an assistant district attorney filed a court petition asking to initiate a secret probe into the disappearance of thousands of dollars in donations to “Operation Freedom,” an annual event for local veterans partially underwritten by county officials. Walker was then the country executive and a Republican candidate for governor who would narrowly win the following November.

        If the prosecutors could open the case under the cover of secrecy provided by the state’s “John Doe” statute, they hoped to obtain greater cooperation from Walker’s office in providing information and documents – which had not been made available.

        “It may be the County Executive’s Office is reluctant to provide information to investigators due to a fear of political embarrassment,” wrote Assistant DA Bruce Landgraf in the secrecy petition, as reported by the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.

        The irony of this revelation was double – not only because Walker has used the investigation’s secrecy to avoid answering questions or providing records to the local media, but because he has brushed aside the convictions and immunity deals by claiming that he “initiated” the investigation and cooperated all along. Not so incidentally, the governor has established his own legal defense fund, into which he has so far transferred at least $160,000 in campaign money. It seems increasingly likely that, whatever the outcome of the recall election, his biggest problems may still lie ahead. Meanwhile, however, he has escaped the echo effect that serious national media coverage of the Wisconsin scandal would have inflicted on his immediate fortunes — and for that he should be grateful to the editors and producers who failed to tell the real story.

        No plans to fix anything, just personal insults.

        Sure, we’ll have a Romney Boom just like the one that took place when he was the governor of MA.

        Axelrod said that the reason Romney never talks about his gubernatorial record not he campaign trail is that under Romney’s leadership, Massachusetts was 47th in the nation in job creation. “You can’t handle the truth,” Axelrod said, addressing the Romney campaigns efforts to shout down the press conference. “If you could handle the truth, you’d quiet down.” The truth, Axelrod said, was that Romney in 2002 promised that his record at Bain would help him lead an economic boom in Massachusetts—a boom that never materialized. Romney is promising the same thing today, Axelrod said, but there’s no more reason to believe Romney in 2012 than there was in 2002.

        That you still support Romney is a greater insult to your intelligence than anything I could come up with, SF, you make your namesake look like Aristotle by comparison.

      • Zython

        No plans to fix anything

        1. I a plan, but it involves actually knowing how the economy works, and where we are in terms of interest rates and inflation, so you wouldn’t understand.

        2. Nothing you guys have done has ever worked, so why would you expect your plan to work this time?

        3. No, seriously, your guys’ plan last time was “we can fix the economy by not paying our bills”.

        PS: Please send my congratulations to Gov-elect Tom Barrett…

        It’s a shame he’s a lame duck with a Republican senate, though.

  • db

    Coming late to this but:

    “-The economy is recovering, but not fast enough, because all the Democrats have to offer is an ideology that has never succeeded in the last 150 years.” Hunh? I’ll stand for the proposition that the “Progressive Program” of the early part of the 20th Century was wildly successful.

    “‘Batty”,

    My college essays are all long gone. I couldn’t release them if my life depended on it. Do yours still exist? And for that matter do you really care what President Obama wrote in SOC101 30 years ago? Maybe we could all read former President Bush’s essays?

  • moonbat monitor

    No. But Obama can.

    But he doesn’t.

    • The Dark Avenger

      Yes, just to hide his Islamofascistic-Socialist Plot that he first outlined in one of his PoliSci or Sociology essays against America.

      This is your brain on Fox News. Any questions?

  • The Dark Avenger

    I’m sorry, but you apparently think that all us Soros/Obama agents for Socialist Change can get them released with a wave of a hand. That’s not the way it works.

  • geneva

    The whole birther thing is completely ridiculous — but they needed to find a more socially appropriate release for their racism I guess.

    With the funding the right wing is getting from corporations thanks to Citizens United we’re in a pretty scary place, and need all the people power we can muster.

    Here is a link to a poem I wrote about Obama and the critical need need to get involved this election. I’ve gotten good feedback so far.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_124QMAPaTo&list=UUzlRhuDjnuO9MXQuiXJjVSA&index=0&feature=plcp

    Good post!

  • The Dark Avenger

    If his transcripts, essays, thesis are not a big deal, then release them. It’s that simple. Not rocket science people. Not rocket science.

    You’re correct, the release would cause fools like you to look for references to his Socialist-Muslim-Anti-American agenda in the released documents, and what’s wrong with that?

    • moonbat monitor

      Release them if there’s nothing to hide. It’s that simple. I think you, and many on the left, damn well know what kind of bs this guy was affiliated with while in college. And you know that most americans (at least those that aren’t already bought off with entitlements or race-based perks) would not be comfortable with it.

      Why are you so scared of what might be in these documents?

  • moonbat monitor

    If his transcripts, essays, thesis are not a big deal, then release them. It’s that simple. Not rocket science people. Not rocket science.

    And I don’t know who was making the god awful analogy about basketball and movie directing, but in case you haven’t noticed, running a business and a state do have some relevance to holding the highest office. Having a jumpshot or making movies does not.

    DERP.

    • Wilbur

      Much better to let the wingnuts look ridiculous with their nasty and idiotic conspiracy theories. Besides, even if he did release them and their was nothing scandalous about them, it wouldn’t shut them up about it. Witness the birth certificate thing.

    • Byrne

      Derp indeed. What is this idiotic obsession with Obama’s life 30+ years ago? You really should focus on his record as president if you want something to use against him. There is plenty to criticize right in front of your face if you cared to look up once in a while.

      Watching the pathetic gullible minions of Brietbart’s chalk outline chase their own tails, thinking they’ve found the perfect Holy Grail piece of evidence has been hysterical to say the least, given they are so freaking stupid they seem to fall for anything without once thinking it through.
      Are all conservatives this dumb? Don’t they have a mental safety standby function, that might give some pause before hitting “Enter”? I guess not. I notice this behaviour often on wingnut sites. They just run with something, no matter how ridiculous or absurd because they are so blinded by their shaking hatred of Obama they cannot think straight.

      They chase down some picture of Obama from the 80s, or some video where he hugs a professor, or some badly written literary agent bio, thinking that they’ve finally cornered him for good, yet they look like complete and utter fools every single time. No one outside the tightly wrapped cocoon of greater wingnuttia cares about this crap. No one. Yet, they claim ‘conspiracy’ because the media doesn’t pick up these stupid non stories. Hell, even Fox News passes on most of the crap that comes out of the Big Govt playskool junior detective swamp.

      Full speed ahead, minions of Brietbart’s chalk outline. Keep bringing the stupid. Keep digging in the past, looking for that magic bullet. It’s not there, but don’t let me stop you. Again, you’d be wise to focus on the last 3 1/2 years if you had any brains at all, which apparently you don’t.

      Somewhere out there, you just know they are still looking for the Michelle Obama “Whitey” tape.

      • SaveFarris

        You really should focus on his record as president if you want something to use against him. There is plenty to criticize right in front of your face

        Oh, don’t worry. We’ll do PLENTY of that too.

        ObamaBOOM!

        • Wilbur

          Yep, Republican success in November rests upon four equally load-bearing pillars:

          1. Keep the teabag base energized and motivated with birtherism and other dog whistles.
          2. By any means necessary, suppress voter turnout in Dem constituencies
          3. Try to get more people to believe that the economic crisis began in January 2009
          4. By any means necessary, obstruct and derail the recovery and blame it on Obama.

          • SaveFarris

            Meanwhile, Democratic success depends on:

            1. Pretend that Obama has not been president the past 4 years.
            2. Pretend Democratics aren’t in possession of the Senate.
            3. Blame all problems on Republican filibusters even though he had a filibuster-proof majority.
            4. As much voter/donation fraud as is humanly possible.

          • Wilbur

            As SF illustrates, I could have used a lot fewer words to describe the Republican pillars:

            1. lie
            2. obfuscate
            3. exaggerate
            4. prevaricate

  • Zython

    That was enough. That he had no record, that he had never served in the military nor held a job in the private sector – all irrelevant.

    So it’s bad that Obama didn’t have a government job, and that he did have a government job.

    Ok then…

    He had no record of accomplishment comparable to his opponent

    Whose only major accomplishment was being part of the Keating Five.

    nor of leadership comparable to his opponent’s running mate

    Whose leadership including quitting half way through and bungling a stadium deal.

    And finally, no matter how much the Left tries to knock it down with isolated criticisms, Romney’s record of leadership and management is, to quote Bill Clinton, “sterling.”

    Yes, because when I think of “leadership”, I think of Mitt the Ripper.

    But for your purposes, I guess I’d have to agree that the Breitbart organization is no more legit than Media Matters is a legit 501(c)3.

    Yes, because I remember MMfA doctoring videos for the purpose of lying about organizations that help the disadvantaged.

    Seriously, why did you choose to be so stupid?

    BTW, the myth that liberals are smarter than conservatives, is now as dead as the myth that liberals “care” more than conservatives.

    If conservatives are smarter than liberals, how come you’re a conservative?

    Romney ran a company (something Obama has never done) and that company did exactly what it was supposed to do, and did it well.

    Of course, you conveniently ignore that his company’s goal was to take control of other companies, squeeze what they could out of it, and sell off what they couldn’t. I don’t know why you want that for the USA (other than sour grapes towards the younger generation, of course).

    Romney ran a state (something Obama has never done) and he did it better than Obama has been running the United States.

    If that’s true, why is he trying so hard to run away from it?

    Obama couldn’t even get the Olympics into Chicago.

    Yeah, I think you’re mistaking us for people who give a shit.

    Again, stupider than the late Frank DiSalle.

  • oi ly

    Plus, he has a deep seated hatred for white culture! Coward.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVH_45acqaM

  • Patrick Grady

    The press never vetted Obama in 2008.

    Though I find it humorous that Oliver will de-legitimize Fox News and Breitbart when it suits him, then refer to them as news organizations when trying to convince anyone of something else. Smacks of a double standard to me, but there’s nothing new about that.

    But I digress.

    The reason Obama was never vetted (by the mainstream media, let’s be clear) is that there was nothing to vet. He had no record of accomplishment comparable to his opponent, nor of leadership comparable to his opponent’s running mate. What he had was an image that had to be protected at any cost by that same mainstream media. He was clean, articulate, good-looking, anti-war, and most of all, he was not George W. Bush.

    That was enough. That he had no record, that he had never served in the military nor held a job in the private sector – all irrelevant.

    Unfortunately that is no longer true. Now there is a term worth of activity (never to be confused with accomplishment) that he can’t hide from. The media can try, but the New Media won’t let them get away with it. And four other very important things are different: Mitt Romney is playing by Obama’s rules and not John McCain’s. Conservatives have, generally speaking, figured out how to turn Twitter against the President as a tool of genuine and deserved ridicule. And finally, the Alinsky playbook that seemed so well suited to gaining power doesn’t seem to work so well when it comes to keeping it. And finally, no matter how much the Left tries to knock it down with isolated criticisms, Romney’s record of leadership and management is, to quote Bill Clinton, “sterling.”

    The first month of serious general election politics has not been kind to the President. I think the next five to come will be very interesting to watch.

    • http://www.thedailybanter.com/author/oliver-willis/ Oliver Willis

      I didn’t say Fox/Breitbart was legit. I said they were out there digging for stuff.

      • Patrick Grady

        Po-tay-to, Po-tah-to. If they weren’t legit, how could they be doing any vetting? Leaving aside for the moment that Breitbart’s Big Journalism site didn’t exist before 2010, it’s kind of hard to maintain the idea that they were vetting Obama in 2008, yeah?

        But for your purposes, I guess I’d have to agree that the Breitbart organization is no more legit than Media Matters is a legit 501(c)3.

        • Wilbur

          Patrick, what you’re missing is that Fox news, etc., is very good at raking muck. If there was any muck to be raked they would have raked it by now. Acknowledging their skill in this area does not mean that they’re not fraudulent assholes and an illegitimate news organization. In fact, it confirms it.

        • CSStrowbridge

          “Po-tay-to, Po-tah-to. If they weren’t legit, how could they be doing any vetting?”

          You don’t have to be legitimate to dig through someone’s garbage. In fact, when it comes to finding mud, not being legitimate has its advantages.

          “…no more legit than Media Matters is a legit 501(c)3.”

          If you don’t think MM is legit, talk to the IRS.

  • Justanotherrighty

    I mean, when we ran against Bush in 2004 we had two botched wars, thousands of dead American troops and hundreds of examples of idiocy in the bully pulpit.
    And you lost, anyway. You might want to re-assess what it was you thought you had.
    Secondly, this race is quickly turning into Obama trying to beat Romney, and what has he got?
    Romney ran a company (something Obama has never done) and that company did exactly what it was supposed to do, and did it well. Romney ran a state (something Obama has never done) and he did it better than Obama has been running the United States.
    And the best, Romney was a super manager of the Salt Lake City Olympics. Obama couldn’t even get the Olympics into Chicago.
    BTW, the myth that liberals are smarter than conservatives, is now as dead as the myth that liberals “care” more than conservatives.
    It’s 1980 all over again !

    • Wilbur

      And you lost, anyway. You might want to re-assess what it was you thought you had.

      That’s right, Justy, we lost, despite the fact that we had real issues to criticize Bush on.

      It will therefore be much more difficult for the Repubs to win, since they don’t have any real issues.

      Hence, the desperate dumpster diving for just a chewed applecore of Bill Ayers, a bubblegum wrapper of Jeremiah White, a used condom of birtherism, a rotten cantaloupe of the Donald, etc.

      That was my whole point, see?

      If you want to convince people that liberals aren’t smarter than conservatives any more, I’d advise you to keep your mouth shut.

      • Justanotherrighty

        It will therefore be much more difficult for the Repubs to win, since they don’t have any real issues.
        Yes, because when the Republicans campaign against the Democrats, it’s exactly the same as when the Democrats campaign against the Republicans.

        -The economy is recovering, but not fast enough, because all the Democrats have to offer is an ideology that has never succeeded in the last 150 years.
        -He hasn’t cleaned up quickly enough after the botched wars that they botched, because as we all know, “cleaning up” after a war means withdrawing all your troops as soon as possible, the words “settlement”, or “victory” not being contained in the liberal lexicon.
        -He hasn’t kept his promise to do things that they didn’t want him to do anyway, and as we all know, failing to accomplish anything worthwhile in four years is exactly how one qualifies to be re-elected.

        I sense it has become important to you to demonstrate your intellectual prowess. I suggest PRV 16:18 (NKJV) as an antidote.

        p.s. It would have been much clearer, if that “despite” in your second comment had shown up in your first: “For want of an adverb, the meaning was lost”?

        • Wilbur

          Yes, because when the Republicans campaign against the Democrats, it’s exactly the same as when the Democrats campaign against the Republicans.

          Alls I’m saying is we had real issues to run on and you don’t. That’s why your candidate is swimming in the hardcore cesspool and ours didn’t.

          -The economy is recovering, but not fast enough, because all the Democrats have to offer is an ideology that has never succeeded in the last 150 years.

          If that ideology were actually being followed, rather than stifled at every turn by obstructionism and pathological austerity fetish of the Republicans, then your statement might have some relation to reality.

          -He hasn’t cleaned up quickly enough after the botched wars that they botched, because as we all know, “cleaning up” after a war means withdrawing all your troops as soon as possible, the words “settlement”, or “victory” not being contained in the liberal lexicon.

          Let’s ask OBL and Qaddafi about that. Oh wait, we can’t.

          -He hasn’t kept his promise to do things that they didn’t want him to do anyway, and as we all know, failing to accomplish anything worthwhile in four years is exactly how one qualifies to be re-elected.

          Except, y’know…. Hey, I wish the list included a few things it doesn’t, but in comparison to botching two major invasions, presiding over the biggest financial meltdown since the last depression, fiddling while New Orleans drowned, etc. etc. etc., I’ll take it. Yeah, I know, he’s not running against George Bush, but what indication has Romney given that he’d do any differently than George Bush?

          I sense it has become important to you to demonstrate your intellectual prowess. I suggest PRV 16:18 (NKJV) as an antidote.

          Oh boy, Bible games! I’ll see your PRV 16:18 and raise you PRV 17:18.

          p.s. It would have been much clearer, if that “despite” in your second comment had shown up in your first

          Yes, I should be more considerate to those with impaired reading comprehension.

    • Christopher Foxx

      Romney ran a company (something Obama has never done) and that company did exactly what it was supposed to do, and did it well.

      Magic Johnson played professional basketball (something Obama has never done) and his team did exactly what it was supposed to do, and did it well.

      Josh Whedon directed Avengers (something Obama has never done) and that movie did exactly what it was supposed to do, and did it well.

      Timothy McVeigh planted a bomb (something Obama has never done) and that bomb did exactly what it was supposed to do, and did it well.

      I’m sorry. Did you think you were making some kind of point?

      Because just because someone does something well doesn’t mean that they’d be good at doing something else well. Running a company designed to enrich it’s few without any regard for the subsequent welfare of anyone else doesn’t mean one would be able to run a country well. On the contrary, it would suggest that they would not.

  • Wilbur

    I feel sorry for the few respectable Republicans left out there. I mean, when we ran against Bush in 2004 we had two botched wars, thousands of dead American troops and hundreds of examples of idiocy in the bully pulpit. What do they got to run against Obama on?

    -The economy is recovering, but not fast enough (for which all they have to offer is more of the stuff that got the economy in a mess in the first place, oh, and anti-abortion bills)
    -He hasn’t cleaned up quickly enough after the botched wars that they botched.
    -He hasn’t kept his promise to do things that they didn’t want him to do anyway.

    No wonder they’re coddling the birthers, anti-abortion terrorists, and racists and grasping at “troublesome” issues like his college term papers. Their only hope of winning (unless the republicans in congress succeed in their mission of destroying the economy even further) is massive turn-out from the knuckle-draggers.

  • SaveFarris

    Wildly OT: The Summer of Recovery has begun!

  • Justanotherrighty

    Thanks to the extensive vetting of Obama in 2008, we know more about his unique background than we do a lot of other U.S. presidents.
    Really?
    We have been through this before. [Before you decide which conspiratorial box I belong in, the answer is "none". President Obama's vetting was poor, not by design, but by neglect] By saying – or should I say, shouting, “It’s not a conspiracy!” you are attempting to say, “Case closed – move along … nothing to see here,” when that is just not so.
    I happen to know, personally, that when you do background investigations on people, and too little information is provided – especially about known events – that is troublesome.
    His sealed grades, essays, and other documents from College are troublesome. His sealed records from the Illinois Senate and the US Senate are troublesome.
    What is he hiding?
    Well, we don’t know, do we? What we do know is that there is someone who thinks that the information doesn’t reflect well on President Obama. I don’t what that information is, I don’t know who that person is that thinks so, and I don’t why they think so.
    But I would like to
    Wouldn’t the same formula – Why seal up records that are inconsequential? – apply to his state and US Senate records?
    That’s why, in the area of Background Investigations, “No news is BAD news.”
    But you can not deflect those questions by saying “It’s not a conspiracy”. Not this time…

    • CSStrowbridge

      “Really?”

      Yes.

      “His sealed grades, essays, and other documents from College are troublesome.”

      This is why we think the right is filled with crackpots. College essays matter? Since when?

      • Justanotherrighty

        College essays matter? Since when?
        As I said, and apparently, you aren’t getting : The content of college essays usually don’t matter. The sealing of them away does matter?
        Imaginary dialogue :
        What’s that you’re holding behind your back?
        A rock. See?
        Doesn’t matter

        What’s that you’re holding behind your back?
        I am not, nor will I ever , tell you what it is
        Does matter

        Get it, now? Or are you implying that you have determined that everything the President has concealed is insignificant, because well, you know … It just is…

        • Christopher Foxx

          JustanotherrightyThe content of college essays usually don’t matter. The sealing of them away does matter

          Ah, yes. A variation on the “guilty unless proven innocent” approach. “If you have nothing to hide, then why are you not showing them to us?”

          The really sad part here is that you’re saying that the content of his college essays doesn’t matter, but then fixate on the fact that you haven’t been allowed to see these irrelevancies.

          You want to be opposed to Obama just ’cause, fine. Free country. But point to something more recent than some homework assignment he wrote 30 years ago. Because as long as you’d rather focus on those, items you note yourself don’t matter, it’s really difficult to take you seriously.

  • thad

    I love conspiracy theories, and particularly the nutty ones that turn out to be at least partially true. The CIA’s LSD experiments were relegated to the domain of conspiracy-theorist nonsense for quite some time but, after a generation or so, were largely corroborated. The existence of Area 51 has been corroborated by multiple sources, but there’s no real line on what was actually going on there and why local nuts mistook it for alien contact. (I’ve seen people claiming to be former agents say everything from secret aircraft testing — plausible — to a phony invasion orchestrated by the Soviets — rather less plausible.)

    That said, yeah, the Birthers and the Truthers are as bonkers as the people who think LBJ had the CIA kill JFK and Hillary Clinton had Vince Foster murdered. I’m sure we’ll hear about some seemingly-zany conspiracy theories turning out to be largely true in the coming decades, but it’s not going to be some deep dark secret about Obama’s past that he’s managed to cleverly hide from everyone. If I were to place bets on crazy classified government operations going on at this moment, I’d bet on some “Men Who Stare at Goats” story about the military spending a hell of a lot of money on something profoundly stupid.